Of course, many of the folks on the bulletin board service do not like what I have to say. Others did not believe it was me saying it. They pointed to poor sentences and other grammatical errors which plague my writing when I am in a hurry. Of course I did what I usually do. I typed out my thoughts before I forgot them all, then went back to try to edit these thoughts and hit the wrong key thereby printing the response instead, errors and all.
A couple of folks were worried my post was by an anonymous person acting like they were me. I set the record straight in the letter below. I re-read the letter and decided it was worth reprinting it here too. I also edited the post before I sent it...
To whom this may concern:
Thank you for taking the time to ask if I posted on "Fat Wallet."
I am the person who posted to the board. For those that felt that the post was poorly written, I hit the send button in error before I could edit the post. Nevertheless, I think I put the salient points across.
I understand people lost money. Some lost a lot of money, and they are justifiably upset. I also understand that it easy to lash out at people, especially when you can do it anonymously. I am responding as best I can, to investors where I can find them, and I am trying to do it in a non argumentative way. I use my real name because I think that the "anonymity" on the bulletin boards in part led to people not taking the warnings about Agape seriously.
Anthony Massaro is, in my opinion, a good man. He met a person who by all accounts was the consummate "con man." Any "con man" worth his salt slowly builds confidence in his "marks" (BTW I saw that you are having a discussion on what to call people who have been cheated. They are neither "investors", "losers", or "victims". They are "marks".) Cosmo started on his friends family and acquaintances. The more he kept promises, the more they believed in what he was doing. ( I noticed someone asked if Anthony ever told anyone where he met Nick. He told anyone who asked. Did any of you ask?)
No one can deny that Cosmo kept his books to himself. No one has come forward with a single shred of hard evidence that VPs or sub-brokers knew of, or saw, anything awry. All I have heard from marks, reporters and on the boards, is that the salesmen "Had to know". While it is a reasonable suspicion it is by far not proof. When it is held to the facts as we know them, it is no longer a reasonable suspicion.
I understand that this business had accountants lawyers and bookkeepers. It filed taxes. Why is it no one on Fat Wallet or in the press calling for these people to answer? Moreover, if done well (and I have no reason to think Cosmo didn't do it well) even these financial employees can be kept in the dark. Nevertheless can you see that their signing off on these documents gave the VP's and brokers even more to believe in?
I agree, Cosmo surrounded himself with men and women who could not challenge him. They knew little. They were mostly not business law educated. Some people on the floor of the NYSE and other exchanges do not have more than a HS education. If they go to the right firm however they learn. I doubt Agape was the right kind of firm. Agape employees had no idea what questions to ask. Even if they asked, they did not know enough to understand whether they were getting the right answers. If the answers sounded right, their belief level rose again. Nick Cosmo knows how to answer questions. (See the 22 "seminars" he held in December '08.)
Finally, belief in the company hit a pinnacle when Entrepreneur Inc. named the company one of the Top 100 Up and Coming Businesses. Imagine the pride these employees must have had. Imagine if you can, the belief and excitement they must have generated and what they told their friends and families. Instead of thinking they were "in on it", just for a moment, imagine they weren't, and think about how they felt about themselves and their company's accomplishments.
Now maybe you can imagine the betrayal they feel. If I am right, and again I have seen nothing hard showing me otherwise, you were betrayed by Nick Cosmo, a man who you barely or didn't know. They were betrayed by their boss. A person they came to believe in like a business "guru." A man who told them he was their friend and who it turned out cared as little for them as he does for you. Now imagine having to go home to tell your spouse that your whole life was built around a house of cards. On top of this, add people calling for your death or arrest etc. The same people, who only months before were inviting you to dinners, weddings, house warnings, and other parties that you helped make possible through Agape World Inc.
These employees have families and homes, They had savings accounts and retirement funds invested too. They thought they had found the goose that laid the golden egg, and they were giving that to other friends and family. Now they are alone, they are not able to speak to these same friends and families. They are despised and the people who heralded them just a few short months ago, have turned on them.
Maybe you are too angry to hear this, maybe you are so angry that you cannot imagine what I am saying. That doesn't make what I am saying not true. In fact, what I am saying is by far more provable than what some "marks" are suggesting.
That "They had to know" line is certainly convenient, and may make a few "marks" feel better that they were ripped off by a team of "con men" instead of by one guy, but it doesn't equal proof by even a preponderance of the evidence, much less beyond a reasonable doubt.
Someone had mentioned that the "brokers" had to have a Series 7. I do not agree. I do not think the law presently requires people who pool money to lend at a profit have to have any regulation at this time. This case may change that, but if it does, it does so at a great risk to legitimate lenders and moreover to needy borrowers. I do not however, wish to debate the issue now.
I would like to say one more thing however. Some of you have suggested that I must not be a very good lawyer because I have chosen to come on Fat Wallet and other websites to respond to some of the things I have seen written there. I guess I have a different way of practicing law than most people do. I think that it is important to have someone challenge, rationally, the proposition that where there is smoke there must always be fire. Sometimes when there is smoke, all it is, is smoke.
My client is sad, dazed, and right now, alone. If I am right, he did nothing more than any other mark has, but he has lost far more than they, he has lost not just money he had counted on, but a support and a belief system. While I understand the anger, it is a shame that others cannot withhold judgment until all the facts are aired. Until then, these men and women are entitled to be presumed innocent by each of you.
There you have it. I may be unconventional, but I think that people should hear both sides of things before they decide something as important as whether to charge a person based on nothing more than conjecture.
I will try to catch up with you all later this week.
TLD
12 comments:
anthony,
I think it is wonderful what you are doing! keep telling your side, the brokers side and make these people see the other side to this story.
I live with and am expecting a child with my boyfriend who was also my broker. We lost everything and i want to scream to anyone who will listen that we are victims too. We are hostages in our own home right now because of crazy threats from angry people and my heart goes out to all these guys and their families bc i know the hell everyone is going through. Keep up the good work and dont let the idiot masses silience the truth, it needs to be told to all who will listen.
Thank you. I am sorry you and your boyfriend are being treated this way. If he hasn't already done so, your boyfriend should get a lawyer. If he doesn't know of a good one, call my office and I will recommend a great lawyer.
As for the education process, I think most of the "marks" are really angry now and scared. They are too blinded by the anger to see that they are really being unfair to people that wanted to help, even though those people didn't know it wouldn't be helpful in the end.
Good luck to you and your boyfriend. God Bless you guys and your new baby.
I think it's really wonderful what's you are doing. But more than that I am happy that Pittsburgh is a champion, and I finally won a bet. Should buy a lottery ticket...
Hang em HIGH!!
I am absolutely behind you, Tony. Give your client my prayers and thoughts. Hang tough...otherwise, my red shoes and I will come kick ass. Got it?
TO all of you who left recently anonymous messages, Thanks for the words of encouragement (I refuse to think comment 4 is anything but a rally cry for me to be Proud...) Anyway, I am hoping the Government can see that Nick Cosmo acted alone and that the same svengali like abilities he used to convince savvy investors he used on the VPs and sub brokers. I guess only time will tell. Meanwhile thanks for reading the blog and leaving some thoughts.
Damn straight it is a rally cry to be proud. I have on some red shoes today in support, Tony. Get 'em.
you are wrong when you say Anthony massero told people where he met nick. i was married to someone who worked for him. after investing i heard rumors of nick being in jail. when my wife and i asked anthony if nick was ever in jail he said NO! he said someone with the same name was in jail and it was not him. i have personally been to anthonys house and am friends with his wife and been to there wedding. he is a liar and a herion trafficker. he looked me in the face and said nick was never in jail...meanwhile they were in jail together...how can you trust anything he says....ROB
To Anonymous of Feb 23,
your "story" may hold a lot more water if it were told by someone who would put a name with it. You see a big problem with the Agape case (with which I am no longer involved) was that critics hid behind fake names and aliases. Without a name, an allegation is baseless. I printed your allegation because I want to be fair. It is the last Anonymous comment I will print. From here on, if you have something to say on this topic, you better be willing to back it up with a verifiable name and e-mail address or don't bother. I printed your comment to say:
1. I don't believe you,
2. You are a coward,
and
3. you are wasting your time.
you are wrong when you say Anthony massero told people where he met nick. i was married to someone who worked for him. after investing i heard rumors of nick being in jail. when my wife and i asked anthony if nick was ever in jail he said NO! he said someone with the same name was in jail and it was not him. i have personally been to anthonys house and am friends with his wife and been to there wedding. he is a liar and a herion trafficker. he looked me in the face and said nick was never in jail...meanwhile they were in jail together...how can you trust anything he says....ROB
Mon Feb 23, 11:50:00 AM EST
the above comment is a lie cause anthony got married in vegas and had no wedding so you are straight up liar!!
Can you please recommend a lawyer
to the rest of us who are seeking information and/or assistance where we can locate any data regarding our investments. I am not either interested in defending or crucifying anyone. I neither have the time nor the patience to focus on this issue. I am simply seeking information, assistance and/or a resolution to my hard earned life savings..
TO seekingassistance,
I want to recommend you go to the Nassau County Bar Association's Law Referral Panel. There you will find recommendations to bar association members in good standing who have appropriate insurance and staff to handle the problem. If they have no one available, they will refer you to the appropriate committee for a recommnedation.
Please also know that you can do the same thing with the Suffolk County bar. NYS bar also has a free panel. Take a look.
I hope this helps you and others.
Good luck
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