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Tuesday, December 24, 2013

Opps She Did It Again!: Nassau County NY District Attorney Kathleen Rice Blows ANOTHER "Flush the Johns" Case

In a now fifth case decided by a different Judge, Nassau District Attorney Kathleen Rice has had another of her "Flush The Johns" cases dismissed for lack of evidenceNassau District Attorney Kathleen Rice has had another of her "Flush The Johns" cases dismissed for lack of evidence.
Last October, right before the election (of course) Rice used county money to run one of the dumbest sting operations in her history of dumb cases. It was called 'Flush the Johns". All it has done so far is flush good tax money down the toilet. Wasting literally hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars on what was basically a publicity stunt, Rice ran a sting by having police women pose as prostitutes on Craigslist and Backpage.com so that they could lure men into hotel rooms and arrest them. She then put their names and pictures into Newsday (which also should be ashamed of itself) and ruined marriages, professional careers and reputations.
Last week Judge Sharon Gianelli ( a fellow Democrat) dismissed two more cases and then there was one in November that went down the tubes. Now Judge Susan Kluewer (another fellow Democrat) dismissed this case for lack of evidence after a man was charged after entering a hotel room with his buddy (who claimed he had to stop and drop something off to the person in the room). The man neither called the alleged prostitute, nor did he negotiate a fee or pay said fee. In other words the case was the only thing in the room that sucked!! (Sorry I couldn't resist). The man's wife instituted divorce proceedings and the case has destroyed him. There was no probably cause to arrest this man, despite what Rice's overpaid PR guy says. Salvatore Marinello said his client is going to sue Rice and the Nassau County Police for False Arrest and Malicious Prosecution. Even if he loses it is going to tack more tax money onto this losing proposition to defend the county...
Rice just won re-election. Nevertheless she should step down. She and her crew of carpetbagging attorneys and nepotistic appointees have done nothing to protect Nassau and worse yet, she has wasted our dollars, inflated her budget all so she can run for higher office. Kathleen Rice is a disgrace. Shame on her, and Shame on Nassau Voters who supported her re-election.

Related Post: Flush Nassau DA Kathleen Rice: Her Flush The Johns Sting Goes Down the Drain
Posted by That Lawyer Dude at 12/24/2013 07:30:00 AM No comments:
Labels: Adultery, Civil Rights, DA Kathleen Rice, Democrats, Entrapment, Escorts, False Arrest, Innocence, Johns, Judges, Nassau County (NY), Prosecutorial misconduct, Prostitution, Sex Crimes, Stupidity, Taxes

Tuesday, December 17, 2013

One of the Things I Hate: Using Hate Crime Statutes to Punish Non-Hate Crimes

"During the debate on the NY Hate Crime bill, I was against the cause. It isn't that I do not think that there is something inherently wrong with a person who hurts another out of hate or prejudice, it is that : 1. I do not like to punish people for their thoughts, and 2. I know lawyers well enough to know that they cannot stand to see a statute NOT get abused.

As I predicted now comes my friend Tom Spota (DA of Suffolk County and I am not being sarcastic I've known Tom since his days as an assistant district attorney in the 70's and I really do like him even if I don't always agree with him)who seems hell bent on abusing the statute to get a greater sentence for a person who has no hate (as we define the term generally) for the person they have allegedly hurt.

Lisa Ferkovich aka the "Sweetheart Scammer" basically charms old men out of their pensions. If true, she is despicable. She evidently according to Spota picks old men b/c they are easier to scam. Hence because she targets a particular segment of society, she must be involved in hating that segment and is open to an enhanced sentence.

A close look at Article 485 of the NYS Penal Law shows that while Spota may be right about how he CAN use the law, it is far from how the law was meant to be used.  The Hate Crime Statute begins with a legislative finding (I wish more laws did this) That finding is part of the law (as opposed to just a legislative history. In part it reads:

"The legislature finds and determines as follows: criminal acts
involving violence, intimidation and destruction of property based upon
bias and prejudice have become more prevalent in New York state in
recent years. The intolerable truth is that in these crimes, commonly
and justly referred to as "hate crimes", victims are intentionally
selected, in whole or in part, because of their race, color, national
origin, ancestry, gender, religion, religious practice, age, disability
or sexual orientation. Hate crimes do more than threaten the safety and
welfare of all citizens. They inflict on victims incalculable physical
and emotional damage and tear at the very fabric of free society. Crimes
motivated by invidious hatred toward particular groups not only harm
individual victims but send a powerful message of intolerance and
discrimination to all members of the group to which the victim belongs."

Reading the first sentence one gets the idea that the legislature was trying to limit the use of the statute to our understanding of hate. Prejudice and Bias. So far so good. The sentence that begins "Crimes motivated by invidious hatred toward particular groups..." also fits the definition of a hate crime however in between, there is the line "... victims are intentionally selected, in whole or in part, because of their race, color, national
origin, ancestry, gender, religion, religious practice, age, disability or sexual orientation."

That segment if read as part of the entire document seems to be consistent with the idea that one must have an invidious hatred in targeting a group however that is not how Spota wants to use the law. He wants to say that the targeting in and of itself is enough to trigger the enhancement. In other words he perverts the statute by suggesting that the targeting vitiates the need to prove "actual hate". The sad thing is that some courts (mostly in Queens County) see it the same way. I humbly think that if this is how the law is going to be used, then the whole thing needs to be thrown out.

Hate crimes are hard enough to define now. Sure there are easy ones, the KKK attacks a black man and his family for instance. Pretty easy to follow. Less so in a bar fight where someone calls some one a cracker or a "N" word in the middle of the fight. Heat of the moment or invidious hatred toward another group?

Assuming that the "reason" someone commits and act is a valid use of a sentencing enhancement, shouldn't that reason be clear? Does someone hate another group because he or she uses inappropriate epitaphs  in the heat of the moment?

In the case of Ms. Ferkovich, does she hate old people or old men just because her scam is in part to target them? I do not think so. I think she does target old men because she is not going to succeed in targeting younger men (Her picture is not flattering) and they may not find her compliments as flattering or they may see through her or who knows maybe they do not want to have her as a companion. I do not see this as a dislike of older men. I see this as part of the crime itself, but it is a targeting. How it differs from her targeting men in general is unclear.

Put a different way, does a prostitute commit a hate crime because she targets johns??

IF the article is correct and complete, there appears to be no hate. If Spota is right then there needn't be any. If the law's general use is to be based not on hate but on targeting then it is a stupid unnecessary law. Every crime has a target. If he wants tougher sentencing he ought to lobby the legislature to get it. Abusing the hate crime law is wrong. The problem is, if she is guilty it is hard to find any compassion for this woman. That doesn't mean we should pervert our laws in order to get her for more time.
Funny.., I think Spota is over 60 now...

Let me know how you feel about the Hate Crimes Statute and this use of it in the comments below.
Posted by That Lawyer Dude at 12/17/2013 08:41:00 AM No comments:
Labels: First Amendment, Fraud, Hate Crimes, Johns, Lawyers, Legislation, Plea Bargaining, Prejdice, Prostitution, Sentencing, Suffolk County (NY), Victims

Friday, December 13, 2013

Flush Nassau DA Kathleen Rice: Her Flush the John's Sting Goes Down the Drain!


  • Flush the Nassau County District Attorney!! Flush the Johns a waste of money!! Acquittals and Evidence Suppressions open Nassau County up to Millions in Law suits.

    Hey everyone, Remember about 5 months ago when Kathleen Rice was running for re-election she had her gestapo I mean her investigators and the Nassau County Police Vice Squad set up a bunch of guys and she then plastered their faces all over the world on the Internet and accused them all of patronizing prostitutes? Yeah? Well Guess WHAT? That's right, the allegations don't hold water!!!!
    Newsday reported that yesterday Judge Sharon Gianelli Acquitted a guy last month and dismissed charges against another yesterday because the proof (if you can call it that) turned out to be HEARSAY!! Yeah Nassau Da Rice and her merry band of prosecutors used a detective that only heard one half a conversation to testify about what another cop told him about the other half of the conversation. NOT ONLY THAT: That cop allegedly spoke to over 30 men and couldn't remember one convo from another!!!! All that money spent and time, ruination of lives and RICE Can't prove her cases!!
    Now I don't want to get down on the young assistants DA's that are handling this mess. I mean they can only work with what they are given, but really the bosses who approved and implemented this investigation and posted the pictures of these men before they were convicted should lose their jobs. In fact, Rice should RESIGN. DA Rice continues to embarrass this county and has destroyed what was a reasonably good DA's office before she and her carpetbagging CRONIES from Brooklyn's DA's office took it over. Too bad these decisions didn't come to light BEFORE the last election.
    Hat Tip:http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/flush-the-johns-prosecutions-suffer-setbacks-1.6598543

Posted by That Lawyer Dude at 12/13/2013 10:21:00 AM No comments:
Labels: DA Kathleen Rice, Escorts, False Arrest, Johns, Judges, Police Misconduct, Police testilying, Pretrial Publicity, Prosecutorial misconduct, Prostitution, Sex Crimes, Stupidity, Verdicts
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